You write so well. I wonder why did you pick Germany as your base home, no that I know where are you from. I am being in Germany many times and masses are a mess, I would have said, a joke but I want to be kind because the time of the year. The rest of the time I am my awful as usual just fine. You touched and you are right about the french, I should know, my grandparents are french that came after the war to Argentina, yes, the land of the Bergoglio, yes, we know him well, so we understand him but what we don't understand still how he was elected pope or why, we have our theories of course. From a person that belongs to centuries of catholicism (two priests and one venerable at least in my family that I know of) I need to tell you some things. But before I have to tell you that you got to closer conclusions without my help and I think you have insight enough to grasp the essence of the Truth (being the word and the way to our Creator). What do you see in Vatican city it is an illusion, it has nothing to do with faith but politics. They are all impostors because they represent a faith they do not believe in, simple like that. Bishop Malachi Martin have very accurate insights about the situation in the Vatican (Institutional). To do the story short all supernatural aspects of the Faith have been erased and the Novus ordo mass (the mass of the new order as we call it no so jokingly) reflects this ecumenical aspect. For many years in the States I found out that the N.O mass is like a Protestant service , our mass has been deprived of what really is, a sacrifice , Calvary and a means for absolution of our sins. The ethos of catholicism is the tax collector ethos not the pharisee ethos, we go to mass to leave our sins at the altar and looking for the Mercy of God, we do not go to mass to make any community gathering and congratulate each other of our self rightness.
The Church of God at the moment has one Leader, our Lord because His Vicar is lacking (I don't know if yu know that Bergoglio renounces to the title of Vicar of Christ) anyway, who I am to judge (but for their fruits you will know them).
I am so happy that you became a disciple of our lord, of the way, the truth and the live because he became man to brings us life and we have all the knowledge of ages and the most you study the most you fall in love for the richness of this personal relationship with Jesus Christ and His Church. We are His family! I will check out the book you mentioned because I also focus in old books because they are more mysterious and wonderful. I love Hildegard and Teresa de Avila and all the mystics. I study catholics books spiritual battles and the enemy of creation and mainly the human race as active spirits that are active in the world in the more high position of power, human sacrifices and all that. We have for all the tastes in our knowledge of the world accordingly how catholics see the world. My book Altum, Duc in is in Amazon but in Spanish, but it is about finding God in a nihilistic world. And I finish the book with a vision of Maria Valtorta, a mystic where she sees Jesus talking with Peter and telling him that (among other things) the Earth is an altar that should have been to hymns to God but became an Altar of atonement because of the sins of humanity so through life in this realm we make atonement for that we need to repent and love and when love ends in this planet, the earth will ceased to exist. It is one of the more reasonable and beautiful thing I never read. We must love to exist!
Another thing that the catholics have forgotten (not our fault, we haven't have a real cathecism and a real understanding where we come from, neither teaching of the supernatural powers as healing (a sign of a Christian who is in state of grace), bilocation, levitation, etc, so another thing catholics do not "remember' is the creation of a New Earth. All we know would be "destroyed" and Jesus (God) would create a perfect Earth for the fidelis ones, the ones that persevere in the way to salvation. So for the millenians that believe in an Utopian (diabolical mockery) system on Earth I am sorry for them, that would never happen in this realm, we are just passing by. You did the best decision in becoming a catholic and i guess you had a Grace from God because WHO SEEKS FIND, WHO ASKS RECEIVED AND WHO KNOCKS THE DOOR WILL BE OPEN FOR YOU.
Have a very inspiring Holy Week and let's rejoice one more in Jesus defeating death. Vini, Vidi, Vinci. Glory to God that is in the highest and to the men of good will on Earth. !!
Thanks so much for the encouragment. I didnt really pick germany but it seemed to pick me. I think we likely agree on most things regarding the mass and the vatican. Its a sad and confusing time. I am thankful for the Our Lady of LaSalette warning us of this time so as not to be too disturbed. I wish you a holy triduum. (I guess the sleeping bag was impossible?)
I enjoyed the roundabout prelude! Would read more cultural observations.
Also enjoyed the rest:
- "It helped me discover the Mass as a sort of interior playground" - I've tried to do this "by accident" when I find myself distracted at Mass. Love when it happens, often a small Mass or a really long Mass. Perhaps being led into some of these methods
- "The meeting of these works of mercy, both corporal and spiritual, is in the work of hospitality. It´s also probably the deepest spiritual need in the west, where most people are without deep friendships and dealing with broken families." Yes
thanks for reading and the comment! i truly appreciate it. i wanted to write up an ethnography of italian culture after walking there last winter, small but funny stuff i fixate on like in this post but doubted whether i could pull it off. next time!
My favorite priests (well, community, and not to put them on a pedestal, but I think that they are well formed men striving for sanctity and that the superiors mostly filter out problem cases quite well) don’t talk about the NO. They talk about the TLM as the Holy Mass; we all know about the NO. We don’t need to go over the differences, not at the sermon anyway. While their attitude is mostly that the spiritual works of mercy must proceed the corporal, and that they must also build up the liturgical apostolate in order to do that, so they don’t escape the trad characterization, they also don’t believe that the TLM is better and needs to be preserved as the goal of their community. Rather, their goal is the restoration of Christ in all things, for which the tool is the traditional Mass (and I say TLM as a shorthand, but I mean the entire old rite, and increasingly the pre-Pius XII redaction of that).
Now, I do think that I can start to muse on why the traditional rite is good simpliciter, but I would note that there are different aspects in tension with each other (e.g. I love, outside of a season such as this Lent/Holy Week now upon us) where the organist softly improvises after the consecration in the French style; this is hardly done in most of the Anglosphere but is de rigueur in France. Silence is not merely the absence of sound, and besides, does not God speak to us in the chant of the psalms, which by definition requires sound? I also love low Mass, during the week especially when solemn or sung Mass is not possible or would be impractical, but not so much on Sundays, where sanctifying the day means long days like this Palm Sunday (hours and hours spent in church).
Anyway those are half-baked thoughts, but I think that the thrust of your thoughts really moved me as much as anything.
You write so well. I wonder why did you pick Germany as your base home, no that I know where are you from. I am being in Germany many times and masses are a mess, I would have said, a joke but I want to be kind because the time of the year. The rest of the time I am my awful as usual just fine. You touched and you are right about the french, I should know, my grandparents are french that came after the war to Argentina, yes, the land of the Bergoglio, yes, we know him well, so we understand him but what we don't understand still how he was elected pope or why, we have our theories of course. From a person that belongs to centuries of catholicism (two priests and one venerable at least in my family that I know of) I need to tell you some things. But before I have to tell you that you got to closer conclusions without my help and I think you have insight enough to grasp the essence of the Truth (being the word and the way to our Creator). What do you see in Vatican city it is an illusion, it has nothing to do with faith but politics. They are all impostors because they represent a faith they do not believe in, simple like that. Bishop Malachi Martin have very accurate insights about the situation in the Vatican (Institutional). To do the story short all supernatural aspects of the Faith have been erased and the Novus ordo mass (the mass of the new order as we call it no so jokingly) reflects this ecumenical aspect. For many years in the States I found out that the N.O mass is like a Protestant service , our mass has been deprived of what really is, a sacrifice , Calvary and a means for absolution of our sins. The ethos of catholicism is the tax collector ethos not the pharisee ethos, we go to mass to leave our sins at the altar and looking for the Mercy of God, we do not go to mass to make any community gathering and congratulate each other of our self rightness.
The Church of God at the moment has one Leader, our Lord because His Vicar is lacking (I don't know if yu know that Bergoglio renounces to the title of Vicar of Christ) anyway, who I am to judge (but for their fruits you will know them).
I am so happy that you became a disciple of our lord, of the way, the truth and the live because he became man to brings us life and we have all the knowledge of ages and the most you study the most you fall in love for the richness of this personal relationship with Jesus Christ and His Church. We are His family! I will check out the book you mentioned because I also focus in old books because they are more mysterious and wonderful. I love Hildegard and Teresa de Avila and all the mystics. I study catholics books spiritual battles and the enemy of creation and mainly the human race as active spirits that are active in the world in the more high position of power, human sacrifices and all that. We have for all the tastes in our knowledge of the world accordingly how catholics see the world. My book Altum, Duc in is in Amazon but in Spanish, but it is about finding God in a nihilistic world. And I finish the book with a vision of Maria Valtorta, a mystic where she sees Jesus talking with Peter and telling him that (among other things) the Earth is an altar that should have been to hymns to God but became an Altar of atonement because of the sins of humanity so through life in this realm we make atonement for that we need to repent and love and when love ends in this planet, the earth will ceased to exist. It is one of the more reasonable and beautiful thing I never read. We must love to exist!
Another thing that the catholics have forgotten (not our fault, we haven't have a real cathecism and a real understanding where we come from, neither teaching of the supernatural powers as healing (a sign of a Christian who is in state of grace), bilocation, levitation, etc, so another thing catholics do not "remember' is the creation of a New Earth. All we know would be "destroyed" and Jesus (God) would create a perfect Earth for the fidelis ones, the ones that persevere in the way to salvation. So for the millenians that believe in an Utopian (diabolical mockery) system on Earth I am sorry for them, that would never happen in this realm, we are just passing by. You did the best decision in becoming a catholic and i guess you had a Grace from God because WHO SEEKS FIND, WHO ASKS RECEIVED AND WHO KNOCKS THE DOOR WILL BE OPEN FOR YOU.
Have a very inspiring Holy Week and let's rejoice one more in Jesus defeating death. Vini, Vidi, Vinci. Glory to God that is in the highest and to the men of good will on Earth. !!
Thanks so much for the encouragment. I didnt really pick germany but it seemed to pick me. I think we likely agree on most things regarding the mass and the vatican. Its a sad and confusing time. I am thankful for the Our Lady of LaSalette warning us of this time so as not to be too disturbed. I wish you a holy triduum. (I guess the sleeping bag was impossible?)
I enjoyed the roundabout prelude! Would read more cultural observations.
Also enjoyed the rest:
- "It helped me discover the Mass as a sort of interior playground" - I've tried to do this "by accident" when I find myself distracted at Mass. Love when it happens, often a small Mass or a really long Mass. Perhaps being led into some of these methods
- "The meeting of these works of mercy, both corporal and spiritual, is in the work of hospitality. It´s also probably the deepest spiritual need in the west, where most people are without deep friendships and dealing with broken families." Yes
Thanks!
thanks for reading and the comment! i truly appreciate it. i wanted to write up an ethnography of italian culture after walking there last winter, small but funny stuff i fixate on like in this post but doubted whether i could pull it off. next time!
My favorite priests (well, community, and not to put them on a pedestal, but I think that they are well formed men striving for sanctity and that the superiors mostly filter out problem cases quite well) don’t talk about the NO. They talk about the TLM as the Holy Mass; we all know about the NO. We don’t need to go over the differences, not at the sermon anyway. While their attitude is mostly that the spiritual works of mercy must proceed the corporal, and that they must also build up the liturgical apostolate in order to do that, so they don’t escape the trad characterization, they also don’t believe that the TLM is better and needs to be preserved as the goal of their community. Rather, their goal is the restoration of Christ in all things, for which the tool is the traditional Mass (and I say TLM as a shorthand, but I mean the entire old rite, and increasingly the pre-Pius XII redaction of that).
Now, I do think that I can start to muse on why the traditional rite is good simpliciter, but I would note that there are different aspects in tension with each other (e.g. I love, outside of a season such as this Lent/Holy Week now upon us) where the organist softly improvises after the consecration in the French style; this is hardly done in most of the Anglosphere but is de rigueur in France. Silence is not merely the absence of sound, and besides, does not God speak to us in the chant of the psalms, which by definition requires sound? I also love low Mass, during the week especially when solemn or sung Mass is not possible or would be impractical, but not so much on Sundays, where sanctifying the day means long days like this Palm Sunday (hours and hours spent in church).
Anyway those are half-baked thoughts, but I think that the thrust of your thoughts really moved me as much as anything.